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The Selective and Self-Serving Memories of the Left

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BushHateSigns

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This idiot can’t determine the difference between “there” and “their”. T-shirt says it all.

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Same idiot.

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Again.

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Written by Ben

November 15, 2009 at 12:18 pm

26 Responses

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  1. Thats nothing compared to what al-Thuggy has gone through….

    /Sarc

    Elric66

    November 15, 2009 at 12:21 pm

  2. In my life, it has been rare to see Conservatives in the streets with the same frequency and degree hate-mongering as Liberals.

    I guess when you’re employed and have responsibilities you have no time to scrawl “Kill the President” on a sign and then head to the nearest protest site.

    I take note that when Obama is equated to Hitler, it is a connection to Hitler’s socialist and over-bearing policies.

    When the left do it to Bush, it’s in the context of mass-killings.

    Ben

    November 15, 2009 at 12:33 pm

  3. There’s a bit of a difference between what people were protesting.

    The Bush protesters were protesting our involvement in two wars that resulted in the deaths of 100s of thousands of people.

    The Obama protesters were protesting health insurance reform.

    Ben Hoffman

    November 15, 2009 at 12:45 pm

  4. Oh, so one justifies death-threats while the other does not.

    NOW I see the hypocrisy of protesting a war which inflicted non-deliberate casualties by launching messages of death against the POTUS.

    Thanks for clearing that up for me.

    Ben

    November 15, 2009 at 12:50 pm

  5. al-Thuggy protesters are protesting much more than just socialized medicine drone.

    Ohh and that death total is a lie. More died under sanctions jackass.

    Elric66

    November 15, 2009 at 3:59 pm

  6. There’s a bit of a difference between what people were protesting.

    Not sure that justifies anything though.

    The Bush protesters were protesting our involvement in two wars that resulted in the deaths of 100s of thousands of people.

    Actually, the war in Iraq has SAVED lives:

    http://tarheelred.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/the-cost-of-the-war/

    The Obama protesters were protesting health insurance reform.

    Right. Socialism.

    pino

    November 15, 2009 at 8:26 pm

  7. Think back through history and recall which group of politically active Americans you’ve seen in the streets. It should conjure up images of overturned cars, burning piles of debris, bricks thrown through windows, vile signs against their supposed enemy, maybe even a burned effigy here and there.

    These are the protesters of The Left, Liberals, the Democrats. In an effort to “re-brand” their image, they now call themselves “Progressives”. This group contains the New Liberal bent on achieving some kind of nervana through socialism brought to us – er – bought by spending programs of astronomical proportions.

    They’re still taking to the streets today and they expose themselves for what they are. Hate mongering, bitter, shallow and devoid of substance, the only thing they can think to do is protest against those who believe in responsible fiscal policies, smaller government and economic freedom.

    If those on the left were to have their way, the next generation of signs they carry might be government funded and the words plastered across it will come from the Ministry of Messages.

    Ben

    November 15, 2009 at 9:47 pm

  8. [the only thing they can think to do is protest against those who believe in responsible fiscal policies,]

    You can repeat that lie until you’re blue in the face and it still won’t make it true. Reagan tripled the federal debt. Bush doubled it. Clinton had a balanced budget. Those were the result of tax policies. Reagan and Bush pushed through huge tax cuts for the wealthy and Clinton raised taxes.

    Ben Hoffman

    November 15, 2009 at 11:20 pm

  9. That’s in the past. It pales against the present with Obama’s policies.

    If you want to rail against the policies of Bush and Reagan, you’re a hypocrite for giving Obama a pass.

    Resolve that, then we can go forward.

    Ben

    November 15, 2009 at 11:25 pm

  10. I hope Ben loves hyper inflation.

    Elric66

    November 16, 2009 at 7:02 am

  11. The Clinton administration amassed the surplus after “giving” Americans the largest tax increase in American history. Al Gore, in his arrogance, chided Americans for wanting their money back where it belongs by saying the money should be held in a “lock box” for a rainy day.

    That’s the hallmark of liberals. They take your money for government’s sake, then try to make tax-payers feel guilty when they want it back.

    Ass holes.

    Ben

    November 16, 2009 at 7:48 am

  12. [That’s in the past. It pales against the present with Obama’s policies.]

    What policies are you talking about? The TARP handout occurred before Obama took office and the stimulus was in response to the severe recession. Health insurance reform hasn’t happened yet, but economists claim it will reduce the deficit.

    I repeat: What spending policies of the Obama administration are you talking about?

    Ben Hoffman

    November 16, 2009 at 11:06 am

  13. The TARP handout occurred before Obama took office

    Authoerization occured before he took office. The spending is his.

    the stimulus was in response to the severe recession

    The recession is over.
    The money didn’t matter, no one thought it would. That’s his too.

    What spending policies of the Obama administration are you talking about?

    Not to mention his budget.

    Health insurance reform hasn’t happened yet, but economists claim it will reduce the deficit.

    In a tricky 10 year snapshot. Ya wanna know how he did that? He wants to strat taxing NOW and hold off on giving benefits for 2-3 years.

    Further, as part of the way to pay for healthcare, they plan to reduce Medicaid and Medicare spending over 10 years. But then, out of the shadows, a seperat bill ws crafted that blocks those cuts to caid/care.

    You really can’t be serious that this man doesn’t wanna spend.

    pino

    November 16, 2009 at 12:24 pm

  14. BH, Cut the BS about Reagan deficit. 2 minutes of research will show tax revenues shot up and the economy recovered within 19 months of the Reagan tax cuts. The deficit was due to the lack of spending control that was evenly shared between Military and Social spending programs on the right and left.

    Obama’s FIRST year deficit covers Reagan’s entire eight year accumulated deficits. And surpassed W’s deficit before the first accounting year was ended. Bush and Reagan-era expenditures can be accounted for, while much of the Stimulus money is unaccounted for or falsely credited with job creation that never happened.

    Furthermore, anyone with an understanding of government and the Constitution (and there aren’t many engaged in intelligent conversation) knows that it is the Congress that holds the purse strings and the President who only signs or vetoes the budget. Thus when opposing parties control the Executive and Legislative branches of government pinning blame or credit on the President is a fallacy. When the same party controls both branches it is less so because the President is the political leader of his party.

    Thus I find your comparisons between Reagan and Clinton quite flawed and purely partisan babbling. W and Obama can take credit or blame for the years where their parties controlled everything. I can’t stand either, as both spent money like it never needed to be paid back.

    What has happened over the past 3 decades is that we have grown used to deficit spending. We compare it to GDP as though somehow as long as it is less than the total productivity of the nation it isn’t actually debt. It is.

    The CBO estimates the national debt in excess of $23T by 2016. They used to peg the tipping point (where we cannot pay the interest) at $18T, I think it’s higher now. Regardless, the CBO is ALWAYS WRONG. THEY ARE ALWAYS UNDER BY A LARGE MARGIN.

    I’ll just make an outrageous prediction that the actual debt will likely approach $30T by that date. In large part due to health care spending. Just as Medicare has been plagued by corruption and has consistently overshot its estimated costs, so will obamacare/pelosicare/democratcare whatever you want to call it.

    What policies? Are you really that dumb or are you testing the knowledge on the right? Where should I begin? Oh, Cap and Trade, Healthcare, nationalizing failing industries/banks, stimulating public spending not private spending, underminding the dollar-standard and accelerating international movement away from investing in the dollar, massive borrowing, raising taxes on those who create jobs thus discouraging jobs, there’s probably more but I don’t have time to start looking. Those are just the ones I am most concerned about.

    They are working off flawed and erroneous econoomic models as they flounder to create a socialist America. The incorrectly anticipate Cap & Trade to make them money. Ah, only if the industries they are attacking survive and flourish. They will likely collapse and require nationalization. That may be and likely is the plan. they talk about bottom-up recovery, but never explain how that might work in reality. Do homeless people and union workers create jobs? Hardly.

    Remember the maxim, “Give a man a fish and you’ve fed him today, but teach him to fish and you’ve fed him for his lifetime.” So giving handouts and temporary jobs give Obama the bragging rights to claim a million jobs saved today but unemployment continues to rise. The deficit continues to rise exponentially raising the national debt.

    Oh but the rich will pay for that, won’t they? And I have some beach-front property for you in Arizona. Interested.

    anamericanidiot

    November 16, 2009 at 12:47 pm

  15. Mr. Hoffman,

    RE:What policies are you talking about?

    Spending policies, man. How else do you get deficits the size of Obama’s ego?

    The differences between Bush and Obama spending policies are detailed in this post.
    http://ourobamanation.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/sarah-palin-demonized-while-obama-walks-on-water/

    The post is about the left being fixated on demonizing Palin while giving Obama a blank check to empty the treasury.

    It should actually serve as a wake up call to both Dems and Reps; Dems for allowing themselves to focus on a red herring and the Reps to get off their lazy asses and get more involved in their country’s future lest it be ruined by the Dem’s idiot and infantile policies – – – spending policies.

    Enjoy.

    Ben

    November 16, 2009 at 1:14 pm

  16. H.R. 384:TARP Reform and Accountability Act of 2009
    The sponsor of this bill was Barny Frank (D-MA) part of the dynamic duo, the other being Chris Dodd (D-CT), who gave us that wonderful Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac disaster.

    This TARP bill was signed into law by President Barack Obama on February 17, 2009, with the primary purpose of stimulating the American economy, which didn’t.

    You can put about $800B in “stimulus” spending at Obama’s feet.

    The last $400 Billion in accumulated deficit was due to Bush.

    Ben

    November 16, 2009 at 4:09 pm

  17. [Authoerization occured before he took office. The spending is his.]

    That wrong. Henry Paulson gave away 100s of billions of dollars before he was replaced.

    [The recession is over.]

    That’s debatable. But the recession created the worst unemployment since Reagan’s tenure, and that’s really what the stimulus was addressing: job creation.

    [In a tricky 10 year snapshot. Ya wanna know how he did that? He wants to strat taxing NOW and hold off on giving benefits for 2-3 years.]

    That’s good. I’m all for a pay-as-you-go system.

    Further, as part of the way to pay for healthcare, they plan to reduce Medicaid and Medicare spending over 10 years.

    I believe the cuts were to Medicare Advantage, which is fraught with waste and abuse since it’s the privatized part of Medicare.

    [You really can’t be serious that this man doesn’t wanna spend.]

    Well, what president doesn’t want to spend? At least his spending will make our country better by lessening our dependency on oil, creating and saving jobs, improving our nation’s infrastructure, improving security, among other things.

    Ben Hoffman

    November 16, 2009 at 4:17 pm

  18. [This TARP bill was signed into law by President Barack Obama on February 17, 2009, with the primary purpose of stimulating the American economy]

    That’s way wrong. Look it up.

    Ben Hoffman

    November 16, 2009 at 4:22 pm

  19. RE:lessening our dependency on oil
    How is he doing that? Is it by the Cash for Clunkes program? The one which failed miserably? Fuel saving was only one goal of the program. The main stated goal was to cut carbon dioxide emissions and thereby postpone the day when the globe will be so warm that the ice cap melts, islands are inundated and we face a gory future. That, the program did, although only inconsequentially, given the pell-mell construction of coal plants in China and India. But at a horrendously uneconomic cost.

    RE:creating and saving jobs
    Really? We have the highest unemployment rate in over 25 years. And you can cite the worthless “jobs saved” crap all you want; it remains meaningless. You cannot calculate that.

    RE:improving security
    Do you mean Fort Hood, the Muslim terrorist incident where you make the preposterous claim George W. Bush Was Responsible For The Ft. Hood Shootings?
    http://ourobamanation.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/george-w-bush-was-responsible-for-the-ft-hood-shootings/

    Congressman Peter Hoekstra, Ranking Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, charged that the Obama White House intervened to keep him from obtaining critical information regarding the Fort Hood murders.

    RE:improving our nation’s infrastructure
    Where?

    Ben

    November 16, 2009 at 4:40 pm

  20. Hoffman, you’re either crazy, stoo-pid, or just taunting like a 4 year old. Perhaps all 3.

    Here, pick one. I give you three. Read them. You’ll learn about what your precious is doing with your money.

    President Obama signs the housing bill into law
    http://www.truliablog.com/2009/02/17/president-obama-signs-the-housing-bill-into-law/

    A $787 billion economic recovery package became law on Tuesday with the simple stroke of Obama’s pen. Knowing whether it’s working? Not so easy.
    http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/17/news/economy/obama_stimulus_meas_success/index.htm

    Obama Signs Economic Stimulus Package Into Law
    President Barack Obama signed the landmark $787 billion economic stimulus package Tuesday.
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/jan-june09/stimulusreport_02-17.html

    Ben

    November 16, 2009 at 4:45 pm

  21. The TARP bailout was passed by Bush as part of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.

    The stimulus bill was passed by Obama and was called the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

    They are not the same thing.

    Ben Hoffman

    November 16, 2009 at 6:02 pm

  22. Who is this strange creature named Ben Hoffman?

    Elric66

    November 16, 2009 at 7:32 pm

  23. Hoffman –

    RE:The TARP bailout was passed by Bush as part of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.

    Yep – got me. Good call. I picked up the wrong TARP bill.

    Apologies for the stoo-pid comment.

    The other 2 have yet to be disproven. 😉

    Ben

    November 17, 2009 at 9:19 am

  24. [Apologies for the stoo-pid comment.]

    Ignorant would be a better word. It doesn’t take brilliance to become informed — just intellectual curiosity, of which you have very little. You’re afraid of Obama because all you know is what you hear from biased right-wing sources.

    Like the old saying goes: “Ignorance breeds fear.”

    Ben Hoffman

    November 17, 2009 at 11:16 am

  25. In a nutshell, you’re wrong (again) and make broad assumptions, which you shouldn’t do for obvious reasons.

    A mistake does not translate to ignorant.

    I don’t need to read biased right-wing sources. All I have to do is watch Barack Obama make decisions and view the fallout from those decisions. It’s cause and effect; everything he does turns to shit.

    Ben

    November 17, 2009 at 11:56 am

  26. “You’re afraid of Obama because all you know is what you hear from biased right-wing sources.”

    No dumbass, we see what he does out in the open on a daily basis.

    Elric66

    November 17, 2009 at 3:24 pm


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